Tuesday, January 7, 2014

DOOMSDAY DOLTS AGAIN!

Then again perhaps some common sense discussion is in order on this "all is good in the World" day. Just what constitutes a true Doomsday scenario? We've read and talked about just how fragile our JIT systems are in terms of food and other essentials. We've discussed just how vulnerable our transportation system is to different types of breakdowns in the grid etc.. In keeping with the theme of "doomsday" I thought I might discuss and area that I have some very personal expertise in just to provoke some thought and maybe just maybe it might help some of us someday should the "unthinkable" happen. 

I have been involved in emergency planning for several cities in the U.S. during my lifetime including medium large cities and small cities. They all have a variety of needs that aren't obviously common. Just for instance. In your smaller communities/emergency planning, one of the key bottlenecks in mass casualties is how to not only care for them but how to transport them to larger more complex institutions. This scenario applies to mass casualty situations like tornadoes, where your community is devastated and your hospital is overwhelmed. This is all well and good but what happens when your higher level transfer centers are overwhelmed....or worse....destroyed. Your community hospital becomes ground zero for this disaster and is incapable of delivering life saving care after the first few critical patients overwhelm it. You are now isolated at your own structure or what is left of it. Do you have any simple precautions taken to provide some minimal level of survival while the area you live in is hopefully repaired and supplies find there way to your community? 

The real reason I am writing this is for a situation that is a real threat to the system that not too many people discuss. What happens to your community and virtually every community in your country when a "high mortality" viral...SARS type epidemic breaks out? I know......"I'll deal with it when or IF it happens".......or....."That's what the CDC is for and it will warn me"......or....."That's what our doctors, hospitals, and emergency system is for"...."I'll get my vaccine and take my antibiotics"....

Is this a "high probability" event? It certainly becomes a higher probability event over time for a variety of reasons such as population congestion, antibiotic over-usage, genetic modification etc..... BUT again let's get back to something no one wants to discuss in the field of "disaster planning"..... People like budfox believe that contingencies for this are all dealt with, but I will tell you from being in these planning sessions that the following scenario is NOT discussed. 

I ask periodically for a show of hands from groups of doctors and nurses in emergency care how many would show up for work in a 50% mortality rate epidemic such as a SARS outbreak. The answer is surprisingly quick and virtually unanimous which actually surprises me knowing how the bravado permeates this particular group. The answer is NOT ONE.......NONE.......would show up for work. The reason is they have dealt with fatal respiratory infections in young healthy people secondary to aggressive viruses like MRSA staph, and many others. They want NO part of high mortality H1N1 outbreak that's mutated (either naturally or otherwise). They know that in a hospital they would be ground zero and more than likely in a 50% mortality epidemic, they would die if exposed.....at least that is what they say. I agree.

They know there only hope would be to keep themselves and their family isolated from the "vectors" carrying the disease which means "more than proper handwashing".  I'll stick with the emergency care providers and how they will react BEFORE the epidemic becomes widespread. What about other areas of the system? Wal Mart? Grocery stores, Quick Trips? Of course this is only "fear mongering" and nonsensical since it cannot happen and you will have plenty of time to "prepare"...... gl











160 comments:

  1. Just keep a six pack of Bud for emergencies - if one Bud can handle it surely a six pack is enough. ;>)

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    1. I think he'll "love" this post.....this buds for you

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  2. half my miners finished green hmmmmmmheheheheheh

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    1. GDX rallied nicely. Very resilient. That's what we want to see.

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    2. Yes, isn't that interesting, esp. the silvers when silver was down almost 1.5%.

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  4. I doubt we will ever see a pandemic in our lifetimes. And even if we do, there is nothing we can do so why fight it?

    I keep about a weeks worth of food/water and $1000 cash stashed away for emergencies. If that isn't enough, then it's in God's hands. We've survived plagues in the past and will survive them in the future. If not, then we'll leave the earth for the next chapter of evolution.

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    1. I never doubted your response Jay......and hopefully the simplicity of your statement holds true...but I will tell you after serving on numerous "disaster planning" committees and being involved in several mass casualty situations.....a large one Hyatt in KC and several smaller ones........tornado and school bus etc.....the results are the same.......the systems always break down WITHOUT FAIL..........I also take note about the planning and find the type of people that serve on these committees tend to be the weaker "thinkers" and are mostly civil service types.........what can you do to "fight it" .......you have to understand that usually you can only take preventive measures which hopefully you understand already. Unless you are a healthcare provider and have your own IVs and medication on hand.....:-)

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  5. I was a medical resident during the early HIV saga. This was a time when there was no diagnostic testing, and there still was much debate on just what body materials were infectious. Even the causative agent--virus, bacteria, etc. was not yet known.

    So, it would always make it around the hospital when another one of those young men were admitted with "no immune system". They would rapidly deteriorate and end up in the ICU. During our on-calls, you knew that it would just be a matter of time when you would be called to see one. We would take turns "going in". You would gown up, mask, double glove and head on in. The memories of what I saw I carry with me. Needless-to-say, there really wasn't much we could do at that time.
    But, there was true fear and some nurses were reluctant to go in, and it was hard to blame them. I only had to go in for about 15 minutes, where they would have to spend hours.

    A SARS epidemic with 50% mortality?? Let's just hope that doesn't happen.

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    1. Yes Doc.......let's hope it NEVER happens........what about a 25% mortality? HIV was blood borne.........what about airborne? lets see how many docs and nurses show up...........I have done my group polls.....multiple facilities and so far NO one will come in and risk their own families

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  6. Something that's been bugging me lately is the amount of call open interest on many mining stocks that expire in Jan 15. Most have grown drastically since June, and even have continue to grow more despite the past two months being declines. I think it's a bit strange to see so much open interest this early for strikes that are generally far OTM. Could be positioning for a large pop in metals at some point during the year.

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    1. I've heard the same Hubz and wonder why .....we might find out

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  7. Well Kli, if such a thing were to happen, at least you have nothing to worry about. You have all that physical gold you can eat, and the silver will come in handy as a cure to many maladies.

    Me, not well prepared at all, not even a day's food or water at my house. If disaster struck, I'll just make a quick trip to the grocery store and get everything I need.

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  8. Kli, You are the most paranoid person on earth........I do like to read most of it even though most of it really don't matter .

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  9. excelllent posts Kindle and Bud...hehehehehe........your cognitive skills are exceptional

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  10. Did you describe our health care system or our current monetary system? How many fed governors will show up to work if the dollar collapses? Just seems to be one corrupt empire fighting other corrupt empires for dominance and the politeness may be going away, what a planet.

    How honored bud should feel you mentioned him in this post. Now on the one hand, I understand where bud is coming from, I am tired am having no choice for participating in certain things which are backed by force, I would rather be rewarded
    for my prudence than pay for someone else's mismanagement. But then on the flip side, is Bud a member of the Bernank fan club? As they bail out insolvent credit creating monopolies by rewarding savers with 1% interest for all their hard work while the speculators speculate with free printed money. Ya gotta keep the credit creation growing based on the system, but it's funny because growth for it's own sake is the same ideology of a cancer cell. Debts that can't be repaid won't be repaid.

    On the disaster subject, some men would rather watch the world burn... rather than
    give up control. One death is a tragedy but a million is a statistic. We will do the right thing once we've exhausted all other options Kli.

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  11. Yes Old Hickory as Churchill says we will..........the problem is that citizens may find the "juice" has a price to pay that just might be too dear for them........hehehhee.....we have lived FAR beyond our means for many decades now thanks to the dollar reserve status. THAT is not going to be tolerated indefinitely and as you know very well it is now backed by the greatest military power phony money can buy.......what happens when the phony money is fully outed......our military will be destroyed overnite as will our living standard...as you and Immred and many here understand ......this will be a very hard dose of reality...but then sometimes a hard lesson is the only lesson one understands.

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  12. More paranoia???

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-07/gun-sales-surge-record-high-2013-expect-ammo-spike-2014

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  13. Oh look.....some old timer has been reading my essays....hhehehehehehehhehe

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/1/7_Here_Is_The_Most_Frightening_Prediction_For_2014.html

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  14. BTW for all of those that don't like the glass half full doomsday post.......sorry.......but I just can't help myself.......hhehehehehhehehehheehhehehe

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  15. I think the main thing not to miss here is that our assumption of our daily life is built on a number of extremely fragile predicates. They don't seem fragile because nothing too horrible has happened lately. A lot of the comments here show that. Things have been so good for so long that few can imagine otherwise. Those of us that have traveled to other countries have seen what life can be like, and how fast it can change. The preponderance of assumption is that because things have been good, they will always be so. Who alive remembers the Great Depression clearly? Plus, most of the posting members here must be single and have no children. Not to have any significant backup reserves of essentials for catastrophe? Go to the grocery store?----The minority that plans ahead only a day wipes the stores clean in a couple hours when a hurricane is bearing down on their towns. Did anybody notice what happened after Katrina? Looting, gangs, robbery, assault, theft.....and that was just the POLICE! I've been involved in disasters several times, both intentional and unintentionally. Now if the disaster is very local, like a tornado, the EMS crews from surrounding towns and areas converge, MASH type med stations are set up and relief comes in from generous sources. We can limp through it. Whether you believe in any of the Armageddon scenarios torturing Kli (and others to varying degree), some moderate preparedness is prudent regardless. Not necessarily an underground nuke-proof bunker with 16 years of food and water, but when you find the stores empty, I might sell you a 5 lb bag of rice or 12-pack of Ramen noodles for your $1000. Might not, too. And that's if you can somehow get close enough for me to hear you without developing a serious leak first.

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  18. good post TNA........I think what I see that concerns me is what you have alluded to which is the fragility of this complex interconnected system with vulnerabilities that can have a virtual instantaneous domino collapse. OBVIOUSLY anyone that wants to give this odds is welcome to.......but like you I have been on the receiving end of lesser catastrophes and can extrapolate many scenarios that could create one incredible mess that NO PTB can put back in the bottle. OF COURSE its paranoia......"It can't happen here" and that just might carry you through until old age and nature decide you can leave in peace........on the other hand if you want to know what simple precautions people in some very large disaster took and how that made their survival possible then you will find a plethora of information with your favorite search engine. Then again like most lazy Americans you will stay with your bread and circus and eat your GMO.........ehheheheheheheh

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  19. I should have put the sarcasm tags around my paragraph regarding preparedness. I think it was Red who posted a link to that Costco 1 year Shelf Reliance kit, a couple of years ago? I bought it at that time, plus a whole bunch of other canned and freeze dried goods. I live in an earthquake area, so gotta be prepared well. I've been eating some of that stuff to make sure it's reasonable, and it's actually quite delicious. Also bought a couple of those blue 55 gallon water barrels, Katadyne filter, first aid kits, etc. But as someone said, if another one of Kli's delusions becomes a reality, I'm not bugging out for months. 1-2 weeks, and if things get worse, it's out of my hands at that point.

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  20. can anyone remember what that little hurrican Sandy did to the East Coast......that was just a warning shot for anyone that has half a brain in that area and experienced it......but alas ....you can lead a horse to water

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    1. I was 150 miles from fukishima when the tidal wave hit, the aftermath you had to deal with daily aftershocks and radiation warnings to stay indoors. Stores, trains and other things shut down for a short time. I don't recall any looting or much if any crime during that period, but then again this is Japan and they were able to keep things going, it wasn't a collapse. In America, with the culture here of knock out games, black Friday trampling for crap made in China, Katrina and on and the amount of people dependent on the system, on there pharm meds to keep from psychotic breaks, , etc I am not sure I hold the same hope that people here would handle it with the same amount of grace. I hope I am wrong.

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    2. OH,

      Based on some of the behavior I witnessed acquiring fuel during Sandy there was not to much "grace" being displayed by some..... A can of Bear Spray with a 50' reach was a comforting necessity...

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    3. Sandy just provided a glimpse of what things will become when the SHTF and there is a 100% certainty of the S Hitting TF. Just don't know how long they can keep the balls in the air before it all comes crashing down. Anyone who thinks we can 'grow' our way out of the problem is ignorant or delusional, or both. Besides the long gas lines and belligerence of those on said lines, supplies were very hard to come by. Ice, nope. Firewood, yes but very limited. Restaurants/food, had to travel outside immediate area. Water, nope. Kerosene heaters, nope. Kerosene, nope. Generators, nope. Flashlights, nope. Batteries, nope. Candles, nope.

      In a bigger and more widespread calamity, ALL supplies, food, forms of energy, etc will be unavailable as well as proper medical care.

      I do need to pick up a few cans of Bear Spray though since it would be better to disable someone than kill them...lol.

      Tom, have you been to REI on Glen Cove Road in Carle Place? I wandered in there a few weeks ago, not knowing who they are and what they are about. They sell a lot of survival gear but seem very pricey. Probably good to go there, make a list, and then buy what you need online.

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  21. Lest anyone be too concerned regarding my doom and gloom paranoia they can reach me on Anna Maria Island next month and at the Palazzo in Vegas the following month........then back to the bunker......hehehehehehehehehe

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  22. Speaking of natural disasters....How close is Vegas to Yellowstone? That supervolcano is WAY overdue to blow. Seriously.

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  23. Only the Mirage volcano will blow

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  24. this is certainly good.......

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-08/spain-youth-unemployment-rises-record-577-surpasses-greece

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  25. ADP 238K.....now the fun begins with Jan taper of 10B "in the bag".....should solidify chances of weak Jan market.....but the real question is with rising 10Y rate WHAT will be the effects on what is already a "weakening" consumer that is now "re-leveraged" ...this is where the rubber begins to meet the road. What I mean by this is a massaged ( as kind as I can be) recovery with manipulated stats now has to earn its stripes as the Bond market calls bullshit. With NONE of the structural issues addressed we now begin THE test of how many cars...and houses with rising rates the "recovering consumer" can by at these "reflated prices".....oooboy gl with this act Just remember Benny's promise low interest rates forever

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  26. Seems there’s not to many Boy Scouts that hang around here, you know the motto “Always be Prepared”… hehehehehe

    Think,

    Your first line sums it up perfectly ….. “I think the main thing not to miss here is that our assumption of our daily life is built on a number of extremely fragile predicates. They don't seem fragile because nothing too horrible has happened lately. A lot of the comments here show that. Things have been so good for so long that few can imagine otherwise.”
    For most, their historical reference is limited only by their time here on earth, No one can truly understand an event or timeframe ie: the depression, unless they lived it or as is the case with town being decimated by a tornado. As you have pointed out for the past thirty years other than a few large natural disasters life really has been relatively smooth and easy in comparison to the rest of the world.

    For everyone else:

    As for an event in the essay above, there’s not too much one can do especially if it were to hit in a metropolitan area….. If one possesses just a layman’s understanding on how the medical community works, of course it would be overwhelmed and under staffed, never mind what it would do to the masses psyche and the JIT delivery system. If anything, one would have to hunker down at home for a month or two and avoid exposure to other humans until it passes but you would have to be prepared to do so and pray your family stays healthy!!! If not, you can pretty much kiss you’re a$$ goodbye, lets pray we never have to live through something like that.

    A lot of thought provoking issues are posted here and that’s how it should be viewed IMHO and take what you can and prepare for certain things based on where you live to the best of your ability. What puzzles me are those that rail against, mock or get disturbed by the issues posted because it can or may be a reality at some point in the near future or maybe not ever at all but being somewhat prepared does bring a small measure of comfort at least in my world. I don’t consider any information bad, it’s just that information, you got to filter what your read and see. Especially what comes from “Official Sources” hehehe

    Kli referenced Sandy, no one here was prepared for that self-included but I was better than the majority and certainly not the local or State Governments, hell they are still sorting chit out. Here’s another issue regarding Sandy and reliance on Government, Bud talked about the importance of Insurance in the last post, correctly so, yet there are far too many that PAID for Flood insurance and have been denied due to “Earth Movement” clause (no earth quake or ground moving event occurred) and are still fighting for the coverage they paid for.

    The whole Flood Insurance System is one huge bureaucratic cluster fk, never mind the cluster fk created between the SBA Loans & NY Rising Grants.
    The point is if you are relying on the authorities to sort things out you might want to reconsider some of your exposures. Really that’s all you can do, life is short and not without risk and one can only do so much to mitigate risk but the more you can do the better off you and your family will be……

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  27. Maybe I missed it - but I saw no mention of a power grid failure. Think of it - it touches almost ever phase of your life (light, heat, cooling, communication, etc. ). Fact is in my opinion this is a much more likely scenario on a broad scale than some natural disaster. We have seen the potential with a grid failure in the NE, Midwest and southern Canada (supposedly accidents caused, but you have to wonder).

    Remember the sabotage of the centrifuges in Iran? This was caused by the introduction of malware into specialized computers called Programmed Logic Controllers (PLCs). What does this have to do with a grid failure? It showed Iran how to disable PLCs. Guess what industry uses many PLCs to control their grid. That's right - electric utility companies. Was talking to a friend who supports the network (including PLCs) at TVA. He told me TVA had to spend many millions of $s after this incident to try and harden protection of their network (because some genius showed Iran how to disable controllers).

    Think about it - a universal grid failure. Good luck getting groceries, gasoline or any of the essentials we take for granted. Good luck heating/co0ling your home. Good luck taking a hot shower. Good luck keeping your food from spoiling without refrigeration. good luck charging your cell phone....

    We have seen partial failures and how fragile the grid can be. We have seen the types of controllers widely used by power companies sabotaged. So we know this is potentially possible and does not depend on nature to fail.

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  28. Kli, I will look for you at Anna Maria island we will be there 21st though 28th Feb.

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    1. will be staying behind Eat Here......and I DO eat there......also eat regularly at Star fish company in Cortez at lunch

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  29. Or just another Carrigton Event, man talk about being in the dark!!!

    SIK,

    Have not wandered over there but I'll make it a point, Thanks

    btw: To be in good order with NYS Law, any pepper spray product MUST be bought in a Brick & Mortar in the State...... Zero tolerance for Internet Products....

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    1. I would buy the pepper spray at Coliseum Gun Traders on Hempstead Turnpike or Dick's at the mall if they sell it there. Both probably less expensive than REI. Thanks.

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  30. Forgot to winterize my spinkler system and came home last night to that pouring out all over my lawn. UGH... glad i have my preps. Bottled water is coming in handy til the plumber gets here :)

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    1. Hubz,

      My system had a master shutoff valve in the basement. It turns off the water that goes just to the sprinkler system. If yours has that, you can just shut that off instead of all the water to your house.

      Don't feel too bad, yesterday, I somehow hit a switch in my car which left some lights on with the temp just 5 degrees. Drained the battery, but I was able to jump it & start the car. But now, the keyless remote won't work. I am hoping I just need to reprogram it.

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    2. My cutoff is apparently buried in the front yard very inconviently according to the builder but due to the deep freeze I am unable to dig it out. He said normal winters here shouldn't have caused that to happen but of course this has been no normal winter.

      Ugh I've done the same with my car battery multiple times. Never fun! Tire blowouts are my personal least favorite car thing to deal with :)

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  31. KLI: What do you do to prep other than hoard gold and silver? Do you have acres of land, semi-automatic weapons and years worth of food/water? If things got truly nasty in America, that would be only way to ensure your family safety/survival.

    I'm with Budfox on this one. I'll take my chances and hope the local Albertsons has an adequate supply of bread and potatoes to keep me fed. If a pandemic breaks out... then I'll leave it in God's hands. As you've said many times, nature always wins.

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    1. Jay, if you arrived at the Albertsons and found the shelves bare, would you have any regrets?

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    2. Jay....gold and silver won't do you much good in a grid failure/ bio event/ nationwide breakdown......gold and silver are mostly for the "rosy" case scenario of budfox ....and that is the gov/Fed manages to get us through all of this without societal collapse. Its to protect my wealth.... Yes Jay I live in a neighborhood with strict restrictions on what you can have so I had large "flower gardens constructed on my large backyard area raised and trucked in large amounts of fertile soil they are designed to look very "fancy" but they are in fact gardens with two feet of rich black soil enough to grow sustaining vegetables. I am in the process of installing a large solar system this month. I have multiple heating backups propane 500 gal tank buried and kerosene storage with heaters....seed vaults.....food....canned...dried...water....purifies....yes guns plenty all sizes and shapes......I keep lots of blocks and sigs for barter and ammo......Unfortunately my home is not a bunker and it would be hard to defend so its not perfect but its geographic location is highly rated......gl......a

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  32. Since your bringing up supermarkets, I went to the local Trader Joe Monday and the store was half empty (Dry & frozen) for no other reason then it had not received its over night delivery for two days due to the weather, you know the "Polar Vortex" that blew up Hubz sprinkler system!...... Just goes to show how fragile the JIT system can be....... Hehehe just ask the Customers of JetBlue!

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    1. There are a lot of pissed off JetBlue customers but I'm not one of them. I flew into NY on JetBlue from Aruba last Friday. Mine was the only flight that got out of Aruba that day, two were cancelled, and in the days that followed, I don't think any left Aruba for NY until today.

      I know people who switched off my flight to beat the storm and they are now stuck in Aruba until next Saturday.

      Not necessarily a bad place to be stuck though.

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    2. Hopefully they paid the small fee for trip insurance hehehehe Nothing better then a paid for extended vacation :-)

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    3. SIK,

      When shopping for Bear Spray, keep the following in mind there is a difference in how the law views "Defense Pepper Spray" and "Bear Spray" I should have mentioned that yesterday.

      http://www.practicaloutdoors.com/?p=21

      Bear Spray classified as a "Pesticide" by the DEC is legal to possess in NYS and can be purchased anywhere so long as it is listed on the pdf in the link I posted above.

      However if ever the need arises to use said pesticide who knows what the Courts will do but at that point I don't think I'll be worrying about Courts.....

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  34. Hmm. Story on NBC this morning said beef prices will be going up due to higher corn prices. I just checked the chart; Mar. 2014 corn futures are down almost 30% since last Jan. Could there be some other reason for the rise in beef prices? Man, they've gotten so they just lie outright about everything. How many people would look at corn futtures anyway to know the difference?

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  35. "although its an extremely low probability risk ...its an extremely high impact risk"

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  36. ANYONE following the gold charts knows that if they can crack 1180 hard they can run the stops on the leveraged paper positions and budfox's 1000 gold comes into play. IT IS POSSIBLE. My view on gold would not change one iota. What would change is the unexpected opportunity for what I believe would be a VERY brief chance to pick up actual physical gold at that level plus premium. YOU would have to be prepared for this because I believe it would be a very short window to buy......I still believe the higher probability is the bottom is in since June.....but stay tuned .....IF its going to happen it should be within the next few weeks....ya gotta have your finger on the trigger if it does

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    1. kli or anyone else,

      here is what I don't get. You would think it a national security issue for all the gold to flow to the east because from what I hear that gold ain't coming back any time soon. Granted this is not the people's gold, it's banker gold. Germany's got wait 7 years to wait, unlimited naked shorting, lack of any audits of gold reserves. How long can this last, either physical dries up or or the premiums get ridiculous. How long before the market comes back online and they loose control of their ability to manipulate? I think they figured it was easy to fool people with manipulation then to outright tax any profits or confiscate it all together like last time.

      It's obvious the plan was to destroy the American middle class to issue in the new order and with all the gold gone you can't buy it anymore, but doesn't that limit their ability if all their banker gold is gone, or was that just a tradition?

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  37. Sandy.....a wake up call to the nation..

    it can not happen to this state......yes it did.

    I live in the gulf states....Houston...we in Houston live through these storms
    every 10 years......on avg

    upper gulf states every 5 years....florida......every 2 to 3 years

    preps are a way of life...

    some parts of the nation will hold up better than others

    paladin

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  38. Old Hickory......that is the Law of Nature you are referencing and what you need to understand is HOW MUCH gold the OWNERS of the Central Banks hold in their private storage vaults OUTSIDE of the bullion banks. hehehehehehehehehehehehehehhe.......NO ONE knows the ultimate amount of gold above ground and WHERE AND WHO has it. THEY KNOW and WE don't. BUT it is limited and they will not give THEIR gold to the East only the Sovereign rehypothecated gold of Germany the US etc etc etc.............busy right now but that IS the question and I believe we are very close

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    1. kli, that explanation is so simple it's brilliant.

      I may have said before in that book I mentioned which was fascinating, Malaysia and the Philippines was littered with buried Japanese WWII war loot and gold since they were afraid to have it in za mothaland for fear we would take it ALL, tons and tons and tons of it probably mostly from China. So then decades later the Japanese went to the Philippines posing as industrialists trying to get it back, Then Ferdinand Marcos gets involved to get his cut. It's so fascinating to get a glimpse in the power plays and the ptb trying to get a piece and all the backroom deals. And what did we do after WWII we put the exact same people back in power.

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    2. OH, what's the name of that book? I must have missed it. Thanks, Sister

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  39. I apologize for my answers due to my current situation multiple multi tasking is not conducive to a lucid reply.......BUT the top of the food chain cut their banker's teeth on gold and NEVER relinquished it. They may have the largest holdings of ANYONE and you will never know....but one thing is certain they have control of virtually all sovereign gold outside of the EAST and even that is debatable. will return later

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  40. In other words they may have their fangs in the Easts gold also

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  41. Yes again Hickory and unless someone can contact me that is an inside source on this I cannot really add any definitive estimate to what they have but I just loved how Gordon Brown coughed up Great Britain's 300+ tons of bullion right at the bottom of the 20 year beatdown of gold. Now WHO do you think took possession of that gold. I heard it was Budfox and his band of henchmen trying to get that last bar of gold. I am joking of course but the point of the joke is this ......IT DID NOT GO to small/retail/sovereigns/hedges etc. It went to a consortium of bidders all controlled by one entity.......The SAME entity that sat down with Gordon and explained why he needed to get rid of that "barbarous relic" at 280 USD ..............hehehehehheheheheheheheheh.......OH Gordo you are such a traitor......

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  42. http://blogdogcicle.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-greatest-threatgerald-celente.html

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  43. http://www.cnbc.com/id/101320860?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=101320860%7CWatch%20Cashin:%20This%20could

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  44. Don't listen to this guy......he's never right......

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-08/did-soros-just-predict-a-china-crash-.html

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  45. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-08/how-us-employs-overseas-sweatshops-produce-government-uniforms

    No wonder why they are pushing to reinstate the Extended UE up on the hill.....



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    1. second half of vid above does a great job of explaining Obamacare...........

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    2. Excellent interview and not by a "Doomer" but someone with a pedigree! Right on point with simple to understand language and difficult to refute but I'm sure Bud will find something!

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  46. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/allied-nevada-achieves-fourth-quarter-133000809.html

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  47. Germany's Gold...http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=31293951

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  48. If the above does not scare you, then nothing will...oh we are in some deep poop!

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  49. I think I owe Tom an apology. This Fukushima situation appears to be a lot more serious than I thought.

    Radioactive Gigantism Washes Ashore Along Santa Monica Coastline:

    http://www.lightlybraisedturnip.com/giant-squid-in-california/

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    1. None needed.......

      Sadly, just follow what's happening to the food chain.........

      http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/fukushima-radiation-something-else-causing-mass-die-wildlife-pacific-ocean.html

      We are watching the destruction of an ecosystem that covers half the planet......




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    2. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/19/oarfish-whale-california

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  50. Played TWTR again today for a quick buck. Vultures are circling that sucker. Also bought some cheap ZSL puts that expire next Friday. Tomorrow's jobs will likely make or break those though. But not a large bet.

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  51. SHLD in freefall after hours..........guess the "weather" musta got um.......hehehhehe

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    1. Fricking Polar Vortex!!! although not surprising, Sears is a shell of what it once was not to mention the really fk'ed up Land's End, used to be my favorite Mail Order Catalog!

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  52. OKdokie. I have a rather "large" physical buy to make.......and bufox......I'm countin' on ya bud........tomorrow's ponzi is gonna give me a "nice" discount on physical when the "jobs" report comes out "suprisingly" strong......."c'mon baby" ........why do I think I get the Broad Street Flush instead.......cuz I think EVERYONE expects a metals price flush manana

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    1. I may place a leveraged silver buy order down around $19 tonight in the hopes that they slam it down in the morning while I'm getting ready for work. I love the smell of low silver prices in the morning.

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    2. its setting up for a nice squeeze on the silver shorts tomorrow after the number.......paper games is ALL it is as the real action goes on in the bullion pits......but then paper is where the neon light is and it still fixes the bullion price for me so I have to at the very least watch it......

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  53. http://www.counterpunch.org/2008/10/03/fdr-s-response-to-the-plot-to-overthrow-him/

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    1. Heinz family fortune from dealing opium to the Chinese, Joe Kennedy the stock market and prohibition, Prescott Bush profiting off the Nazi's, Daddy Bush and Iran Contra using drug money to finance weapons shipments while at the same time we have the war on drugs and "Jusy say No" Talk about hypocrisy. You gotta love how these political dynasties made their fortunes and now presume to act as moral authorities. Too Funny.

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  54. tick tick tick tick

    http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2014-01-09/royal-mint-runs-out-sovereign-gold-coins-%E2%80%9Cexceptional%E2%80%9D-demand

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  55. ONE more thing for those looking for clues to "if we're running out of physical" to perpetuate the paper price suppression....DON'T forget the attack on India......IF we had a secret or unlimited amount of physical to satisfy the Eastern demand then the cartel WOULD NOT have forced India to implement the gold importation controls last year........THAT ABSOLUTELY IS A TELL

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  56. Very resourceful! I read your blog and it is brilliant. I went through many articles but none of them are as good as yours. Keep on executing your awesome thoughts On CDC One Piece Uniform. Thumbs up.

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  57. What's with our desire to build extreamly dangorus industries next to bodies of water????

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/us/chemical-spill-fouls-water-in-w-virginia.html?referrer=

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  58. GOLD! Israel does not need to attack Iran for this to happen....I read today that Russia has made an agreement with Iran to purchase 500,000 barrels of oil a day using barter of goods from Russia. Petro dollar demise..YOU BET'YA! We are in deep poop for sure...http://www.israelunseen.com/if-israel-attacks-iran/

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    1. Anyone care to guess, what the price of oil would be here in the US?

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    2. ME war talk is "jawboning" to keep oil price up......the real concern is IF they did hit Iran then its no longer "jawboning" and the domino effect would be not only oil at 200 and the dollar reserve going bye bye but nuclear.....and nuclear is where they may want to go

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    3. EXACTLY Kli! Dollar demise either way, IMHO

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  59. JOBS NUMBER! WATTA FRAUD!!!!!!!!...........we are so F'd........gl

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    1. so much for the taper........but don't worry....they can manipulate it with bullshit for a little longer.....

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    2. Bud decided to support a few more people so they quit looking and the unemployment rate is now 6.7%. That Bud is quite a guy. How does he do it?

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    3. that "quit looking" number was 340K and "WE'RE RECOVERING"......also weekly hours worked decreased .....maybe even more telling

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  60. http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/1/10_Major_Players_To_Corner_The_Gold_Market_In_20214.html

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  61. WE'RE RECOVERING

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-10/people-not-labor-force-soar-record-918-million-participation-rate-plunges-1978-level

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  62. WE'RE RECOVERING

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-10/its-official-us-created-less-jobs-2013-2012

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  63. WE'RE RECOVERING

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-10/baltic-dry-index-collapses-35-worst-start-year-30-years

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  64. Nice quick double on ZSL puts. May let these ride... YUM :)

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  65. Jobs numbers musta convinced somebody there will be no tapering...even tho GS is sticking with its 1050 POG by YE.

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    1. They will taper in January OR all hell will break loose. If they don't taper in January it sends a message they "don't know what they're doing"....and "they may be losing control".........so they will continue to "faux recovery" meme.....and take some steam out of the market.......question is do they want to "tank" the market for the WS shorts ....my guess is they do not and will only throw some fear in for MEGATAPER before summer

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    2. Damn it's getting good. Getting hard to keep juggling this mess!

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  66. Interesting...Got gold? http://www.investigativeproject.org/4259/possible-repercussions-from-turkey-corruption

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    1. Very interesting TB...have a Turkish friend (now a U.S. citizen) who is totally against Erdogan and the religious aspect he brought to Turkey's gov't. He is hoping this will put a secular gov't. back in power. And the U.S. doesn't?????

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  67. A follow up to the corny "Beef Price" report.....

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/09/Corn-falls-to-lowest-level-in-nearly-3-1-2-years

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    1. Thanks for noticing Tom. It's all become such a sham it's hard to keep up. And OH, please post the name of that book, I missed it the first time around!

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  68. Remember, there was that Art Cashin video where he said all new Fed Chiefs get challenged early in their term. So, something must be coming up for Yellen. Maybe it will all be pre-engineered for her so she does all the "right things".

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  69. The jobs adjustment to expand the part time employee #s (October and November) and reduce the # of employees that have to be covered under health insurance programs seems to be complete based on December's employment #s. This employee adjustment boosted employment #s in October and November as some employees had hours cut and this was made up for by additional hiring. December was a reversion back to more normal.

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    1. Very well done Inlet.....and very clearly another piece to the ponzi job puzzle.....too bad the frogs enjoy the warm water........pretty soon the budfrogs will just go to sleep in their "bath water"

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  70. Here's some of bud's lazy slackers

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-10/union-jobs-are-new-ipads-1500-new-yorkers-camp-out-three-days-1720-hour-job

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    1. Wait I thought only Non-Documented's wanted to work???? Well at least that's what I'm told........

      Although the line might get a bit longer next time District Council 9 is looking for help!

      http://www.market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=227487

      Nice Union Representation!

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  71. ZH has been pumping doom and gloom since 2009, thousands of articles, some of them highly entertaining, but ultimately nothing to show for it. But in a few years, when the Dow finally corrects from 20k back to 17k, they'll pat themselves in the back about how they got it right.

    Kli, do you have something from KWN for us? I'd particularly like to read an interview from one of those 60 or 70 year market veterans, 'cause you know, they are the experts and always right.

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    1. As usual bud your age matches your critical thinking and criticizing 60 Y market vets seems rather strange after your last lesson on your Waste Management core holding......hehehehehhehe......No bud I for one would never dream of changing your strategy and ZH is one of the few market online services providing true insight into this casino. I find it funny when someone such as yourself without any real experience in Markets other than getting "wiped out" in 2000 can make a blanket statement regarding ZH which I know is followed by most professional traders on Wall Street and even by most reporters in the Financial Media. Yet, you merely trivialize it like its some type of Yahoo message board.......hehehehehehehe......I'll bet any amount of money you read ZH multiple times everyday.........In fact budfox.......I know you do......So budfox.......bring us some more of your illustrious trades.......Jay would like them maybe Doc too.......Its an open thread as usual and we can all learn from you........Waste Management was a real eye opener

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    2. Ahhh Go easy on Bud, look he obviously does not do well with sites like ZH, KWN or any other alternative news site/feed that doesn't follow script and actually he is in the majority. I think it could be a lack of coping skills or maybe he truly has looked at his future and is not to happy with what he see's.

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  72. I think I'll take this guy over a 30 yo working out of his mom's basement

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/1/10_David_Stockman_-_2014_Is_The_Year_Of_The_End_Game.html

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    1. What? You know Bud has a PHD don't you? He paid this "art" guy $100 (no, not Art Cashin) to design and print his PHD certificate from the Obama School of Liars. It is a BS - PHD. lol

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  73. Blackrock Inc has just reported changes in some of their holdings as of 12/31/2013. Lots of additions to mining and oil company shares. Looks like they are anticipating inflation in 2014: Yamana Gold new position as of 12/31/13 81.7 million shares; Marathon Oil MRO at 12/31 70.6 million shares vs. 2.5 million at 9/30; Harmony Gold 55.6 million shares at 12/31 vs. 1.5 million at 9/30; Goldcorp 90.6 million shares at 12/31 vs. 91,594 at 9/30. I will bet we will see other successful investment firms upping their holdings in these sectors as well at the end of 2013. Very interesting..............

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  74. Bird Flu...

    http://www.webpronews.com/h5n1-bird-flu-is-here-in-north-america-2014-01

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  75. Hey, check out the CEF chart. Huge red candle at close which closed 2 big gaps. What's the deal with a red close when silver was +2.8% today? (sorry, I still don't know how to post charts here). Yep, pprazen, AUY been on a nice upward trend.

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  76. Tooooo Funnny

    http://www.brotherjohnf.com/archives/257614

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    1. I guess they will have to ask the Chinese for it back.....

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    2. even on their knees they'll get the same result......but they might sell some to bud at 900........

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  77. Well Kli, you are the king of dog picks, what with SRS, DCTH, RIC, EXK, SVM, PAL, GPL, and too many more to list. I think I get it know, I have a long ways to go before I become a grizzled veteran yourself and your senile buddy Inlet. That seems to be the ticket to pumping all sorts of garbage.

    Inlet, didn't I tell you take all your medications before posting on this blog? I see it's necessary to remind you on a daily basis.

    Remember Kli, $900 gold coming in 2014, so be ready.

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    1. only to be in your league budfox.......btw bud please post more of your holdings for us.....heck make um up if ya want.......we wouldn't know...hehehhehe..........also bud I hope you're right on gold and it IS possible in the paper ponzi casino......one thing is for certain however, you will never own one ounce of gold......but I think Waste Management is a perfect metaphor for you....how fitting.

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    2. Kli, if only you were in my league. WM is up 40% in the 2.5 years since I got in, while collecting a nice dividend. My overall portfolio since 2009 is up almost 110%, still trailing markets because ultimately I've been on the conservative side. What is the performance of "Kli's Dogs" during this time, please share? I do remember hearing minus 80-90% percent, which means we have a ways to go before we're in the same league.

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    3. That is a lot of anger Bud!!! As a matter of fact Drs have me on several meds which I take every day. I appreciate your contributions to my health "welfare". Somebody has to pay for my ICD and meds. I don't care what Kli says you are a great guy to pay for my health maintenance. So keep working, make lot of $s and contribute the max to Medicare. Hehehe

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    4. It's the least I can do Inlet. After all, I have this 6-figure job fixing, re-designing, and re-architecting piss-poor, non-scalable, non-performant, nightmare-to-maintain systems designed by fossils like you, so think of it as a small token of appreciation.

      Angry? Life has never been better.

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    5. Bud, I was coding/testing/installing state-of-art automated manufacturing systems at GM in the early 1980s while you were still crapping your pants at day care. Now admittedly state-of-art has moved on since then, but we were doing things in manufacturing that had never been done before. Some of he systems we developed and integrated into GM factories resulted in quality improvements that let GM compete with Japanese quality the next 2 decades.

      I seriously doubt you have the experience or background to work on the systems I worked on for major corporations including IBM, GM, Federal Reserve Bank, Federal Express, utilities, universities, US Military and many others.

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  78. Check it out, a new name being proposed for the "benefits" being received by Kli and Inlet's free-shit army: Transitional Living Fund (yeah, transitional for life)

    http://www.examiner.com/article/sheila-jackson-lee-suggests-renaming-welfare-to-a-transitional-living-fund

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    1. I hereby propose renaming welfare to "Lazy Ass Slacker Fund to Ensure a Lifetime of Democrat Voting."

      oops, that wasn't politically correct.

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    2. Jay,

      http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/368171/website-top-house-republican-drops-opposition-amnesty-fred-bauer

      Don't buy the their BS they all want a slacker class so they can continue the mantra "Americans Don't Want to Work", helps with the "Dream Act" and a permanent underclass of workers to be exploited......

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  79. Budfox: What month do you think gold will hit $900 this year? Thanks in advance for any insight you can provide.

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  80. Jay, I would never attach a specific date to a price target, or else you look bad like Kli and his gurus who have been consistently proven wrong time and again. For instance, the immortal Jim Sinclair predicted last year that gold would not break $1500, and that it would bottom in that area by March 2013, even making a nebulous reference to his birthday which was in March 20-something. Of course, gold went thru $1500 like a hot knife thru butter, and Sinclair had his ass handed to him.

    It can happen anytime this year Jay. Could be a quick and violent 1-week event in Feb, could be a slow grind thru June/July which is the seasonally slow period, or happen this Fall. If you're waiting for it like me, just have $$ ready so you can pull the trigger when your price point is hit.

    I will leave exact predictions to esteemed experts with 80 years of experience in the markets.

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    1. THANK GOLD......we have a bottom call...THIS YEAR!!!!!.......AND sub 1000 even......."could be a quick and violent 1-week event in Feb" good descriptive there.....sounds vaguely familiar but anyway by violent do ya mean like a chains n guns n knives with blood n cryin' or do ya mean like fast n furious stuff.....ya know all that retail sellin' stuff with cryin' n dyin'.....hehehhehehehe.......one thing is for certain.....Jay needs to get in Waste Management with the rest of the Mafia and that chit..... You definitely have my attention though......forget that old coot Sinclair.....we gotz budfox.....master of the gold.......(who btw owns NONE and never will) Remember this oldy budfox......" he who owns the gold makes the rules" heheheheheheheeh.......Oh budfox if only you could be right.....watta buy it would be......You and half the world would be in on that buy

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    2. I bet waste management is a double or triple just cleanin' up all that blood n guts from the all those retail gold bullion pukers......hehhehehehehe.......just can't believe they wont puke up hundreds of tons of it at that level for you to buy bud.......ya know those chicoms and indians won't buy at that level.......oh wait.......

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  81. OK you food fighters and others, here are my notes on the 1st hour of the Financial Sense Radio Show.

    1) The money printing has caused a Wealth Effect. Luxury items & Restaurants may do well
    2) Bubble may burst in Small Caps--PE's are high so earning numbers need to be good

    These are from Tom McClellan (McClellan Oscillator)
    3) A bullish run tends to occur at the END OF January--so maybe a peak then?
    4) 2nd year of a Presidency is usually bearish
    5) A major correction likely coming--perhaps starts in February
    5) Election of a new Fed Chief usually causes a "bubble to burst". Thus, Yellen may actually do something that will cause stock prices to fall.
    6) If stocks fall, Bonds will rise. So, Bonds may actually do fine the 1st part of this year
    7) Gold will likely rise the 1st half of the year--perhaps a peak in July around 1420. If participation in Gold is poor, Gold could then fall BELOW 1180
    8) The pattern in stocks may look like the "1929 pattern"--some initial rise, then fall

    Eric Townsend
    9) Gold is presently having a very strong bounce off the technical level of 1180. He believe Gold could rise to 1400, but again may fail & take out 1180.
    10) He is still concerned with deflation (Oil prices could continue to fall)
    11) New recession possible after 2014

    12) Louise Yamada believe low for Gold will be 1000

    13) Goldman Sachs also predicting low for Gold is 1000

    There you go. I will try to listen to the 2nd part tomorrow.

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    1. 8). posted 1929 analog chart for current market on my blog if interested....

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    2. 11). Never got out of the Old Recession of 2008/2009.....

      There Doc, I fixed it for you.......

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  82. EVERYONE believes the low for gold is below 1000

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    1. Just a thought BUT maybe that's what da boys want everyone to think and sit on the side lines of the physical game while the do what they do to prevent a visible shortage to the unwashed peeps.... Tis plauseable as any other set up they have cooked up!!

      On another note if the price does get below 1k in a swift & violent move as Bud suggested be prepared to pay over $100 per oz preimums if you can get it at all.....

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  83. My belief in gold is that NO ONE NOT in physical gold already will never get in it........whatever you've got is what ya gotz...........

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  84. Forgot to add that Tom McClellan did feel based upon his charting that Gold could climb "long term" to the 2400-4400 level, but he gave no timeline. I believe he was implying years from now.

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    1. Hey Doc,

      What you refer to as food fighting I like to refer to as Budfox syndrome, not to be confused with Stockholm syndrome.
      This is all guessing but I estimate 90% plus of all Americans suffer from Budfox syndrome which is classified as either DONT KNOW or DONT CARE. Most people have no clue how the sausage is made and don't care to know. How money is created, how the stock market really works, etc, That's a bad recipe. So now we all bet and on what the future manipulations will be and the ability of the general public to go along with it , rather than any market fundamentals of supply and demand. Place your bets hehehe.

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  85. I believe gold will climb to 20,000 level.........years from now......and maybe fewer years than Tom McClellan might guess

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  86. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-11/did-goldman-just-kill-music-sp500-now-overvalued-almost-any-measure

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  87. For those that understand this........ a nationwide shortage of one liter normal saline IV bags is active........

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  88. ERs are being asked to order 500 ml bags instead..........hehehehehhehehehehhehehehehehe

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  89. Someone is expecting some type of possible need for many bags of Normal Saline

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    1. Or could it be simply distortions in the market due to GPO's, Profit Margins and the FDA???

      http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/778146#2

      and since we are on the topic, this is gonna make Bud REALLLLLLY happy!!!

      http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-11/humana-warns-adverse-obamacare-enrollment-mix

      Seems Big Insurance is wasting little time lining up at the "Too Big to Fail" feed trough...... Corporate EBT's!!!!!!!

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    2. Left this out of the above.....

      http://www.nraa.org/index.php/breaking-news-a-hot-topics/467-nraa-encourages-fda-to-act-to-resolve-saline-shortage

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  90. Note: I did listen to the 2nd hour of Financial Sense. They are doing a several part episode (over several weeks) about predictions for 2014.
    This week's show was basically a collection of "this guy says this but that guy says that". So many of the predictions were completely contradictory--example, one guy claims oil will rise to 110, but another guy predicts a fall to 80.
    So, it will create too much confusion to try and list everything here. Nothing was mentioned about Gold & Silver.
    I will listen to next week's show to see if anything more concrete.

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  91. http://s28.postimg.org/5yxuctpfh/Silver_daily.png

    interesting candle comparison with 50sma stopping large daily candle in August before move north and now Jan., at same time frame of month. 4 month cycle makes me want to watch silver pretty close this week...BB bands are real tight also....

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    1. 80% of that gain was over in a week too

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  92. Nice Info! The silicon wafers are placed among two very thin plates where the solar systems begin the creation of power.

    High Efficiency Solar Panels | Solar Power System Canada

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